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Sheriff Thomas McAllister is Red John.

  • Even apart from the sheriff's hunting habit and his fear of pigeons are other clues pointing in McAllister's direction as RJ.

    1.We know he's a memver of the Tyger Tyger conspiracy. Yet on the church roof in Napa he chose to save Jane's life. Remember we know the members of Tyger Tyger were getting jittery of Jane. And so far there's been no suggestion that the conspiracy revolves exclusively around Red John. So logic dictates that, given even half a chance, a Tyger Tyger member would have eliminated Patrick. The sheriff could easily have shot Jane and put the blame on the failing light and the exigence of the situation. However he wouldn't do that if he were RJ. Or one of RJ's followers. However given his general persona I think turning him would be too much of an effort, one which I don't think RJ would make given that the sheriff is not that high up a figure in law enforcement.

    2.The way he spoke with Jane after saving him gives off vibes similar to the relationship we know RJ wants to have with Jane. The way he spoke, the way the shot was taken as he climbed to the roof (remember we almost saw him towering over the roof, silhoutted against the moonlight) and the way he walked over while Patrick scrambled to safety in front of him.

    3.We saw in an earlier episode (this is I think the good sheriff's first appearance) that he wasn't very suave with Grace Van Pelt. However Red John, we know, is extremely charming and can endear himself easily to the opposite sex. Secondly as the rough sheriff with a passion for hunting I hardly see him as someone who sips tea while listening to classical music. However we know Red John has that particular trait. This duality of personality could be what Sophie Miller sensed in Mr Jay Roth even as she admitted she couldn't adduce any actual behavioral evidence to back up her opinion.

    4.Among the remaining suspects on Jane's list Sheriff McAllister's perhaps the only one who practically would have the means to assume the role of our favourite serial killer (my heartfelt apologies, Dexter). Reede Smith, Gale Bertram (and even Bob Kirkland for that matter; perhaps not Brett Partidge) are all law enforcement figures who would have too public roles as members of law enforcement to have the time or means to prowl around. Brett Stiles and Ray Haffner too could perhaps fit these gaps .But Stiles we know is for one too old and secondly has found a new passion in his Visualize cult which I do not believe he would jeopardize by taunting Jane at the end of Season 5. Ray Haffner too was a member of law enforcement and more importantly he's attached with Visualize now. If Haffner were indeed Red John Brett Stiles would destroy him (and we can reasonably suppose Stiles could do so if he wished) because A.he wouldn't want him to endanger Visualize (we know Stiles goes to great lengths to protect his cult) and B.he would seethe at the idea of a possible dual power structure forming in his cult.

    5.Recollect his reaction at Jane's house. Jane had sweet-talked him into coming to his house, saying he needed his help to unearth Red John's identity. We know that Red John is getting nervous for some reason (as was amply shown as he engaged a PI to bug the CBI and then failed to completely kill her; he's too clever to simply assume Jane would be unable to squeeze some clue from her before she succumbed). Given that, when Jane asks him for help in taking down Red John (particularly after he saved Jane's like at Napa Valley and Jane was visibly thankful about it; he would be happy that his trick was working and that he had perhaps succeeded in at least partially drawing Jane's alliance) his reaction best fits Red John after Jane forces the suspects to reveal their shoulders at the point of a gun. Remember this is the first face-off between Red John and Patrick Jane in which Red John has no control and is completely unsure as to whether he's facing the guy whose family he killed or the mentalist pretending to be the guy whose family he killed.  It stands to reason that he would be visibly afraid and try to save himself which he was (Remember Jane was pointing the gun at him). Otherwise we know Sheriff McAllister to be reasonably intelligent and he would immediately have pointed out that he wasn't the only one with a tattoo.

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    • Too old, hoarse, croaky voice, has nothing to do with RJ or investigation of him until Red John's Rules, introduced in a non-RJ related episode, possibly too old, If he's Red John, this show was a complete waste of time. Even Reede Smith is more likely.

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    • Oops, mentioned old twice.

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    • actually "red john" is such a big myth, it doesnt matter who it turns out to be, there will always be a large amount that is disappointed..

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    • 70.127.66.64 wrote:
      Too old, hoarse, croaky voice, has nothing to do with RJ or investigation of him until Red John's Rules, introduced in a non-RJ related episode, possibly too old, If he's Red John, this show was a complete waste of time. Even Reede Smith is more likely.

      1) The actor is older than McAllister himself -> Berkeley's around 57 or something, but his character was 45 when the series started. So he would be 50/1 now, fitting into the Elliston farm "kid description" of around 25-30.

      2) Yes, croaky voice? But what's the point... whenever we heard RJ it was not his actual voice

      3) Yes, he has nothing to do with him, but don't you think that reappearing again after almost 5 years does make things a bit suspicious. He's got a lot of time to work in the shadows, not to be seen by Jane.

      4) he was introduced in 1x02, right after the pilot, so it's just as interesting if it was him. He meets Jane right after 1x01 (which would be toooooooooo damn obvious if you think of Partridge) and so it doesn't raise questions...

      5) Nope it's not a waste of time, you are just someone who likes to complain because if it's Thomas, it was not the one you would've picked. Poor you ^^ and come on, Smith? Heller said there's a chance we saw RJ till season 3, 4. So Reed is out...

      just get some logic into your thoughts, please. Heller can't choose someone whom everyone is going to love as RJ. Someone's always complaining.. just show some respect and cut 'em some slack. It's more about the story BEHIND Red John than about the person himself that makes this an intersting story line

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    • Wow...lots of text...i've had alot of theories,and that McAllister theory is like pulled out of my head ;)

      Btw...im also a Dexter fan ;)

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    • sceriff mc allister seems to be dead, but it's not, because he is red john at 100%

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    • 게일 버트 레드 존이며, 당신이 나를 생각하지 않는 경우에, 우리는 나중에 찾을 수 있습니다 ..

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    • McAllister is the only one who has hair like the person in the still right before he crashes through the glass in the Red John episode preview.

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    • Good analysis but I can't get over the explosion scene. McAllister would have had to hide a similar sized body in the cabin (the couch?) ahead of time, smuggled in an explosive, and detonated the bomb when he was clear. He also has to switch his DNA records. We still haven't heard a full explanation of what happend inside the cabin after Jane lined up the Tyger, Tyger suspects, so it's all possible.

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    • McAllister is not dead, it looks like he is the one jumping through the glass, but maybe he is not Red John?  I also noticed In the preview that  there is blood on the man's shirt before he hits the glass.  Previews are often intentionally misleading.

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    • The explosion at Jane's house was too dramatic.  That's how Jane knows to believe that the opposite is true.  That one of the suspects is still alive.  Jane knew it was McAllister a while ago.  And Xander gives a great performance.  I'm just upset that things had to be rushed like this all because of the Mentalist's timeslot and the people who complained about the Red John storyline.  This would have been amazing if the "red john" episode had been the very last episode like it was intended to be.  There was obviously so much more that Heller wanted us to see, hear, and understand about RJ before the big reveal.  All of this was pretty much snapped away with the list of 7 names, unfortunately.  You can't put up a list like that, include someone as obscure as McAllister, and then not expect people to not figure it out.  At the very least, it kind of ruined the surprise, because up until that list, no one would have guessed it was McAllister, even though the writing was all over the wall.  There were so many very subtle, yet right in front of your face clues.  Sadly, it would have been brilliant.

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    • Sheriff Thomas Mcallister is Red John

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    • Thomas Mcallister is Red John.

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    • 67.166.122.123 wrote:
      Good analysis but I can't get over the explosion scene. McAllister would have had to hide a similar sized body in the cabin (the couch?) ahead of time, smuggled in an explosive, and detonated the bomb when he was clear. He also has to switch his DNA records. We still haven't heard a full explanation of what happend inside the cabin after Jane lined up the Tyger, Tyger suspects, so it's all possible.

      Dear me, you give Him way too little credit.

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    • 162.232.29.118 wrote:
      The explosion at Jane's house was too dramatic.  That's how Jane knows to believe that the opposite is true.  That one of the suspects is still alive.  Jane knew it was McAllister a while ago.  And Xander gives a great performance.  I'm just upset that things had to be rushed like this all because of the Mentalist's timeslot and the people who complained about the Red John storyline.  This would have been amazing if the "red john" episode had been the very last episode like it was intended to be.  There was obviously so much more that Heller wanted us to see, hear, and understand about RJ before the big reveal.  All of this was pretty much snapped away with the list of 7 names, unfortunately.  You can't put up a list like that, include someone as obscure as McAllister, and then not expect people to not figure it out.  At the very least, it kind of ruined the surprise, because up until that list, no one would have guessed it was McAllister, even though the writing was all over the wall.  There were so many very subtle, yet right in front of your face clues.  Sadly, it would have been brilliant.

      Why is it that the Sheriff is obscure but Brett Partridge and Ray Haffner aren't?

      Why is someone as outwardly bumbling as Gale Bertram not a magnet for suspcion as to being RJ?

      And finally, do you remember what happens to those who slight Red John in public?

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    • I think the Sheiff is Red John

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    • If you look closely at Red John as he's dying, you can tell it's the Sheriff.  It's really obvious, guys.

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    • Hilzyyyy wrote:
      Wow...lots of text...i've had alot of theories,and that McAllister theory is like pulled out of my head ;)

      Btw...im also a Dexter fan ;)

      Well, let's get cracking, shall we? Why are you a Dexter fan? Is the reason similar to that why you're a fan of The Mentalist?

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    • Your analysis is very interesting, thank you. 

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    • 90.62.105.5 wrote:
      Your analysis is very interesting, thank you. 

      Thank you for showing an interest in my work.

      Jay Roth

      Red John Motivator by Petit J
      ILikeRJAdded by ILikeRJ
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    • ILikeRJ wrote:
      Hilzyyyy wrote:
      Wow...lots of text...i've had alot of theories,and that McAllister theory is like pulled out of my head ;)

      Btw...im also a Dexter fan ;)

      Well, let's get cracking, shall we? Why are you a Dexter fan? Is the reason similar to that why you're a fan of The Mentalist?

      Dont know...;) despite the crappy ending,they're both probably the best shows ever made. And well,trey're both mostly about serial killers ;)

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    • I still think it was not red john and it will only be a matter of time until we see a new blood happy face.....most likely on this seasons finale. the good ol sheriff was made to "end the game" for now for red john. and it will of course only be a coincidence that red john murders will continue after jane returns. Patrick Jane is red john.....most likely has split personality disorder and explains a lot of things. they are polar opposites yet the same habits and intelligence....textbook split personality disorder. and of course he knew things only patrick knew unless he was a real psychic. i could go on and on. literally speaking, if this craziness were real, all arrows point toward jane himself.....BUT it is of course a show and they very well may leave it like it is. but i highly doubt it considering as there are still a lot of shows left and no one has stated this will be the last season. why would they keep the show going on if red john is dead? as in the end of a video game; he was the "final boss" for the show. common sense would tell anyone that this ends up being a trick played by red john and when he is ready; he will kill again. 

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    • Are you deaf or blind? Heller confirmed someone on the list of suspects was Red John, so McAllister is definitely reasonable. Patrick Jane as Red John would have ruined the show.

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    • Yeah, plus everyone else on the Final suspect list is dead save for Reede Smith and I seriously doubt they want to put him as Red John. McAllister makes the most sense and quite honestly I'm sick of Red John. If I never hear Red John's name in the series again it will be too soon. The series need to move on from Red John and rebuilt itself if it wants to survive for another season. The Blake Association can stick around for Season Six but after that they need to find new enemies otherwise they are just wasting our time.

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    • hi there

      red john appears in s5e5 and in s5e7, in both of them at the end of the episode.

      please check

      s5e5 at 4:56   and in s5e7 the end scene

      he doesnt give his name

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    • I'm hoping that it wasn't sherif mcallistar but it probably is but I just don't think he fits all the description him and jane are nothing alike I would be pretty upset if at the end of this season it is still the sherif I hope before it ends like ep 17 red john kills and jane then catches the real red john an macallister was pretending to be red john abut it wasn't really him he was just red johns biggest accomplish

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    • 50.161.82.169 wrote:
      I'm hoping that it wasn't sherif mcallistar but it probably is but I just don't think he fits all the description him and jane are nothing alike I would be pretty upset if at the end of this season it is still the sherif I hope before it ends like ep 17 red john kills and jane then catches the real red john an macallister was pretending to be red john abut it wasn't really him he was just red johns biggest accomplish

      McAllister isn't Red John. In fact, Red John fingered the ~Seven Suspects~ just for Jane (and CBI and the Feds). Except for Stiles, all we ever had in that group was a bunch of fish.

      Stiles? He may know Red John; but, he's been a favorite for too long to be Red John. And, really, not a single solid clue points to Stiles. Besides, no fun, even boring. So, nope; not Stiles, either.

      One thing to notice is that Red John and Red John the serial killer are two very different persons.

      Patrick? We know he is willing to take the law into his hands and kill killers, including, maybe, the San Joaquin Killer. But, he doesn't fit very well as Red John the serial killer. And, althought he's brilliant enough, Jane doesn't fit as Red John, either. (Not absolutely impossible; but, again, no clues.)

      Leaves us with just one remaining suspect. Loads of clues, too, including in the "White Lines" episode. There Jane nails Red John's ID about as clearly (for a dream) as anyone could wish.

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    • Keeping this short. But after almost 6 complete seasons with that much epic excitement; A 5 minute long scene is way too short after fidning out who he is. I think it's just another "decoy" for RJ, tbh, it's basically what keeps this show as epic as it is! There is a lot of loose ends and a very big lack of explanation. I think RJ is either Patrick (as mentioned above), or one on his team. Would be epic!

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    • 84.48.108.85 wrote:
      Keeping this short. But after almost 6 complete seasons with that much epic excitement; A 5 minute long scene is way too short after fidning out who he is. I think it's just another "decoy" for RJ, tbh, it's basically what keeps this show as epic as it is! There is a lot of loose ends and a very big lack of explanation. I think RJ is either Patrick (as mentioned above), or one on his team. Would be epic!


      While Jane is a good suspect, he is not  very satisfactory as Red John-- i.e. the serial killer and/or the mastermind of the RJ organization.

      Reason is that Jane has always been a suspect, from the start. IF he is Red John, then it is, at best, only marginally plausible that we would not have known it long ago. The story line would have to purposely omit or gloss over all the occassions which we should reasonably expect to view and which would nail him.

      For instance, Jane obviously set up the San Joaquin Killer to bash Red John in that local, spur of the moment scheduled, TV broadcast. We can be reasonably sure that, unless Red John follows Jane around 24/7, the only one who could have killed the SJK guy within a few hours of the broadcast is Jane.

      As with that 'respectable businessman' killer who was evading the law, Jane decided the SJK guy needed killing and Jane killed him. He set up things to frame RJ and he set up the killing to look like a Red John murder.

      If jane is not RJ, we can accept that Lisbon would not 'put 2 and 2 together' and arrest Jane 'on suspicion'. (A bit sloppy production-wise; but, within bounds.)

      But, if Jane is Red John, then killing the San Joaquin serial killer would, in any reasonable story line, be where Red John is arrested.

      Given the evidence we have to work with, Jane is not Red John because, if he were, he should have been investigated and nailed years ago.


      Is Red John someone on Jane's CBI team? Don't think so. Only suspect there would be Grace. But, there has been nearly zero evidence to support that idea.


      Let's assume the solution makes sense and that it will be a bit of a surprise. In that case, it is nearly impossible for Red John to be just one person.

      What we have is a serial killer called "Red John" and someone who, for some reason, took the name "Red John".

      The serial killer is of interest because Jane is a prime suspect. So, if not Jane, the identity of the serial killer-- e.g. Jane's father, mother, a carney family boss, someone Jane knew from Visualize, ..., -- is not especially critical. It's something which can be worked out in the remaining episodes without anyone feeling especially short-changed because it's 'old stuff', background.

      The person who took the "Red John" name and has run some sort of criminal organization featuring dedicated female agents is much more interesting. Only two persons seem to fit that 'mastermind' Red John.

      I think Lorelei or Lorelei working with Stiles = Red John.

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